Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ivor, =20 Sorry...The diagram below has a small mistake. The clocks and data strobes are shown as 50 Ohms signals in the diagram. This is wrong. =20 =20 The clocks CK/CK# are routed as a 100 Ohms differential clock. The diferrential clock pair is split into 4 branches(To the 4 DDR2 chips) at the controller end. =20 All the 4 differential branches are length matched. Each of the clock limbs is individually terminated to the terminating voltage with a 50 Ohms resistor as shown in the=20 =20 diagram below. =20 =20 The DQS/DQS# strobes are also routed as 100 Ohms differential signals. =20 Best Regards, Dhiraj ________________________________ From: Dhiraj Kiran=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:35 AM To: 'ivorlist@xxxxxxxxxxx' Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] DDR2 design Importance: High Hello Ivor, I had a similar x64 DDR2 requirement in one of my designs. I used 4 nos of x16 devices with the following topology. The same topology should work for you as well. But I would advice you to simulate. =20 Best Regards, Dhiraj -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Ivor Bowden Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:52 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] DDR2 design Hi SI Experts, I am reviewing a layout for an embedded DDR2 design using 4 Micron DDR2 chips with an Altera Cyclone controller. The memory is set up to be 64 bits wide, 16 bits per chip. The target rate is 167MHz. The design is not simulated. Termination is as follows: ODT may be supported, still investigating. There is no series term. There is 0.9V stub term for control lines. There is a differential 100 ohm term for each clock pair (4 total). Routing is as follows: Control lines are daisy chained and length matched between the first DRAM and controller (about 1"), each DRAM (about .75") and the last DRAM and terminators (about .25"); total net length is about 3.5". Data lines are length matched at about 3" (controller to DRAM). Clock lines are length matched at about 4" (controller to DRAM). Trace impedance is targeted at 100 ohms for clock and control lines, and 75 ohms for data lines. Is this design likely to work? If not, what changes should be considered? I very much appreciate all comments. Thank you! Ivor Bowden Engineer Curtiss-Wright Controls ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list <//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list>=20 For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ <http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ>=20 List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org <http://www.si-list.org/>=20 List archives are viewable at:=20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list <//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list>=20 or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages>=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu <http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu>=20 =20 -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/jpeg -- File: Outlook.jpg -- Desc: Outlook.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu