{snip} For your "typical" projects, how many circuit board revisions does it = =3D take to go from the block diagram stage to full production release? {snip} Some have asked about the results of this survey so here is the tally of = responses: It appears that the number of board spins has a bimodal distribution. = The first peak is at two spins. This group tends to have the logic = correct the first time around for most of their projects. The second = spin then becomes clean-up for minor details that were missed. Within = this group are what appear to be two subgroups that I would have a hard = time distinguishing between due to the unscientific nature of the poll. Subgroup A (3 responses) will typically ship the first spin. From = reading the comments, this group appears to perform more prelayout = simulation and review prior to layout. Some also mentioned post layout = review prior to board fab. This group sometimes has the second spin = although they tend to think of the second spin as feature creep created. Subgroup B (4 responses) tend to do a good job on the first board then = do a second spin for minor clean-ups. Sometimes this group requires a = third spin. Typical reasons for third spins were not having 100% correct = schematics at the first spin (EBKAC errors) and feature creep. For those = that asked, this is the group where I've tended to fall when there is no = feature creep. The second main peak within our bimodal distribution are the 3 responses = that typically have 3-5 board spins. Not enough reasoning was given for = me to know why 3-5 is the number (e.g., feature creep, complex designs = with new unproven chips, etc). Again, thank you all for the responses. The information is certainly = useful in providing us with "industry standard" evidence for creating = new project schedules with more than a single board spin. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu