[SI-LIST] Re: Doubt about DDR1 memory module's CLK topology

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Lijinxing <venussoso@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 03:10:27 -0700

The capacitors mimic the stub loads that would be present had there been 
DRAMs at those locations.  This insures that the clock behavior, 
including reflections is as close to uniform as possible despite the 
different populations. 

Steve
Lijinxing wrote:
>
>
> Hi, SI experts.
>    I have some questions about DDR1 memory module's clock topology.
>    There are three pairs of differential clock, let's take 2R * 8 unbuffered 
> memory for instance, there are 16 DRAMs in all,  so dividing the load to 
> 6,6,4 DRAMs for the CLK, as the following illustration:
>  6 loads:            
>                     /DRAM1
>                   / \DRAM2
>                 /       DRAM3
> CLK  -------------/
>                 \    \ DRAM4
>                  \ / DRAM5
>                   \DRAM6
>  
> 4 loads:
>                    /DRAM1
>                   / \DRAM2
>                 /       Cap
> CLK  -------------/
>                 \    \ Cap
>                  \ / DRAM3
>                   \DRAM4
>     The standard for the Cap in 4 loads condition is, equal to 1/2 DDR SDRAM 
> input capacitance.
> My question is:
>    1. What's the purpose of these Cap.s, balancing the load? Or matching 
> impedance? Signal termination?
>    2. In a condition, the DRAM input capacitance is 2pf, so the referenced 
> value is 1pf, and I measured the signal 
>  
> Hi, SI experts.
>    I have some questions about DDR1 memory module's clock topology.
>    There are three pairs of differential clock, let's take 2R * 8 unbuffered 
> memory for instance, there are 16 DRAMs in all,  so dividing the load to 
> 6,6,4 DRAMs for the CLK, as the following illustration:
>  6 loads:            
>                     /DRAM1
>                   / \DRAM2
>                 /       DRAM3
> CLK  -------------/
>                 \    \ DRAM4
>                  \ / DRAM5
>                   \DRAM6
>  
> 4 loads:
>                    /DRAM1
>                   / \DRAM2
>                 /       Cap
> CLK  -------------/
>                 \    \ Cap
>                  \ / DRAM3
>                   \DRAM4
>     The standard for the Cap in 4 loads condition is, equal to 1/2 DDR SDRAM 
> input capacitance.
> My question is:
>    1. What's the purpose of these Cap.s, balancing the load? Or matching 
> impedance? Signal termination?
>    2. In a condition, the DRAM input capacitance is 2pf, so the referenced 
> value is 1pf, and I measured the signal under 1pf configuration, is perfect. 
> If I exchange the Cap.s to 2pf, the clock performs very bad, the undershoot 
> is significant, and the rise edge is much faster than the referenced 
> condition. In addtion, when I remove the Cap.s or use 3.3pf, it also performs 
> much better, can someone give me an explaination?
>    3. What is the disadvantage by removing these 2 Cap.s? And why use Cap.s, 
> can resistor or inductor work?
> Any reply is appreciated, thanks.
>  
> John.
>  
>
>
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