Justin, You are correct about the electron locations. I stated, "acting like a metal", not "is a metal" because the resistivity drops thus more conductive (like a metal) and less like an insulator. I know this is splitting hairs, but it was the overall point I was trying to make without an extensive amount of theory. Regards -Ed At 09:00 AM 3/21/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Ed; > >I don't understand what you mean by the doping becoming degenerate and >acting like a metal can you be more explicit. If I am correct the >dopant does not have free electrons (they still reside in the valence >band) and a metal does (electrons reside in the conduction band). > >Thanks > >Justin > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ed Sayre III [mailto:esayre3@xxxxxxxx]=20 >Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:45 AM >To: rfengg@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Doping effects. > > >Hi George, > A question right up my alley! When you dope a semiconductor you are > >just providing more free electrons or holes, dependant on the dopant, to > >reduce the resistivity. This is illustrated by the increases the drift=20 >current through the material., At some point the doping becomes >degenerate,=20 >at which time the material is less silicon and more dopant. Basically=20 >increasing the doping of a semiconductor makes it behave more like a >metal,=20 >to the point of degeneracy then it changes back.. This method of=20 >degenerate doping can also be used to create an insolating layer in a=20 >silicon substrate for isolation. > There are a very limited number of pure metals that are=20 >superconductors, Niobium the most commonly used and the one with the=20 >highest transition temperature, 4K. Others are Aluminum and Tin. The=20 >transition temperature is the temperature at which a material becomes=20 >superconducting. If you look at a resistivity versus temperature plot >of=20 >most materials and extrapolate to 0 K the resistivity does not go to >zero=20 >at 0 K, even superconductors above Tc. A superconductor will look like >a=20 >normal metal then transition, in a step wise fashion(the transition=20 >region), to 0 resistance, at Tc, under DC conditions. > Since we use the interconnects of a chip, package, or system at=20 >frequencies other than DC there is also another interesting=20 >behavior. Superconductors actually have measurable loss at frequencies=20 >above DC. These losses become significant and then pass those of cooled > >Copper or Aluminum at about 100GHz for temperature of 77K (Liquid=20 >Nitrogen). So the interesting thing is that cryo-cooled normal metals=20 >actually perform better at high frequencies than high temperature or low > >temperature superconductors. Ramo, Whinnery and VanDuzer, 3rd edition,=20 >have an excellent plot of this on page 152 figure 3.16b. > BTW, this was one of the areas of my research. Hope this helps. > > Regards > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > NORTH EAST SYSTEMS ASSOCIATES, INC > -------------------------------------=20 > > "High Performance Engineering & Design" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Edward Sayre 3rd e-mail: esayre3@xxxxxxxx > NESA, Inc. http://www.nesa.com/ > 5 Lan Drive, Suite 200 Tel +1.978.392-8787 x 218 > Westford, MA 01886 USA Fax +1.978.392-8686 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >At 03:30 PM 3/21/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > > Hi all, > > If doping increases the conductivity of Silicon , why cant >we=20 > > attain superconductivity with heavy doping of a material? Whats the=20 > > phenomenon that limits the conductivity if we actually do increase=20 > > carriers by doping? > > > >Thanks and regards, > >George. > > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. > >http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=3Dplus&ref=3Dlmtplus > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To unsubscribe from si-list: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > >For help: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > >List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu