Sorry if I repeat what may have been already stated, but widening the traces will start allowing other modes of wave propagation also which could complicate matters. But I will leave it to the electro magnetic=20 experts to explain what I am referring to... Arpad =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = On Behalf Of Barnes, Heidi Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:58 AM To: parth.simon@xxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Disadvantages of wider traces Dear Simon, Yes, you are correct in that just widening the trace width increases the capacitance by the simple increase in area between parallel plates.... the problem is that for proper Signal Integrity design one is always concerned about maintaining the characteristic impedance of the design to minimize reflections at high frequencies. Typically when one widens the trace, the dielectric thickness is increased to maintain the correct characteristic impedance, and in turn the L and C per unit length stays the same as the trace width is increased since one is keeping Zo fixed Zo =3D3D (L/C)^0.5. =3D20 The other thing to look at is that for stripline where the dielectric material is uniform around the conductor the dielectric constant does not change with trace width. This is not true for microstrip, microstrip has a combination of air and PCB dielectric and Eric Bogatin's book on Signal Integrity Simplified on page 144 has a nice plot showing how the "effective" dielectric constant changes with line width. So for microstrip you may see a slight increase in loss with an increase in trace width but not for stripline. Regards, Heidi Barnes ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu