Hello to All Would anybody like to share their knowlege or experience with using coplanar ground traces in a microstrip configuration? Are there any "rules" for the width or impedance, and number/spacing of vias for the ground traces of such a configuration? A short explaination of our design: We have 100 ohm diff microstrip; signals are .013", with .015" spacing, ground traces are spaced .010" from signals and are .010" wide, with vias to the ground plane (.012" below) at about every .5". Our digital signals are 2.5Gb/s with the fastest rise time at 100ps. We expected the coplanar grounds to better contain the fields, and allow closer pair to pair spacing without the risk of large crosstalk. We believed that we had taken the coplanar grounds into account when designing the configuration, but now thnk that the software we used assumed that the coplanar grounds were perfect. With the narrow ground traces, and the vias to the ground plane, we now believe that the coplanar grounds are actually quite inductive at our frequencies. We have both microstrip and stripline coupons, and expected the microstrips to be slightly better since they have no vias in the signal path. But in fact the striplines show less discontinuity (TDR), and have less jitter when transporting a pseudorandom bitstream. Thanks Bob Welte IBM Microelectronics ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu