Dennis, Sorry for the errors. It should be MTT-Vol.45,No.7,1997,pp.1071-1077. The title is "Pure-Mode Network Analyzer for On-Wafer Measurements of Mixed-Mode S-Parameters of Differential Circuits" by David E. Blockelman etc. Thanks for pointing it out. Mick -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Rehm [mailto:drehm@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:32 PM To: xlzhou@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: Differential S-parameters I looked on the MTT web site and did not find the article that you mentioned below. The pages in No. 1 start at 1, the july issue has pages in the 1000 to 1100 range but no article starting on page 1071. What is the title of the paper? Thanks Dennis "Zhou, Xingling (Mick)" wrote: > Hi, > > We have exactly the same concern. > > I use the formulas published in MTT-Vol47,No.1,1999,pp.1071-1077. The > authors proposed PMVNA system. I do not know any commericial one. > > Furthermore, how does the "Network Analyzer with Ungrounded Ports > (SP_Diff.)" in Agilent ADS > work in this case? I mean, are the definitions consistent? > > Mick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zabinski, Patrick J. [mailto:zabinski.patrick@xxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:23 AM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Differential S-parameters > > In the past few years, we've seen a tremendous surge > in the application of differential signaling, and we > do not expect the trend to end anytime soon. > > In our lab, we like to characterize our devices, both > active and passive, with S-parameters. We feel S-parameters > give us MUCH useful information. > > However, making differential S-parameter measurements > takes us a considerable amount of effort, requiring > a series of baluns, switches, etc., all manually > controlled/installed. > > Is there a commercial piece of equipment on the market > (or being developed) that makes truly differential S-parameters. > > I am aware of the ATN/Agilent system that takes single-ended > measurements and mathematically converts the results to > differential, but for active/non-linear devices, I believe > we really need a truly-differential capability. Does such > a beast exist? > > Thanks, > Pat > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu