Hello Giancarlo, Instead of simulating in 3D, I assume that in my case I can live with approximate values, so for evaluating the parasitics and impedance of vias I am now using H. Johnson's empirical tables appearing on his advanced SI book. The problem is - the differential impedance has not been addressed there, and I wonder if there maybe exist some similar empirical data regarding differential vias! Itzhak hirshtal -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ing. Giancarlo Guida Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:34 PM To: Hirshtal Itzhak Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Differential Impedance of PCB Vias Hi Itzhak, in your case you should take in thye account the overall layout of the via: pad and antipad dimension, via radius presence of stub via to ground I doubt you can do this efficiently by using a formula you would be in a better shape if you could use a 3D solver to find the best layout for your via. I am using CST Microwave studio for such a problem and I find it very efficient. Giancarlo Hirshtal Itzhak ha scritto: > > Hello, > > I need to route a 3.125Gb/s 100-ohm diff pair such that it traverses > from one layer of a PCB to another layer through a pair of vias about > 100mil long. > > I would like to keep the diff impedance of the pair of vias as close > to 100-ohm as possible. > > How can I estimate the diff impedance of the vias? Is there a reliable > formula to calculate this value out of the self characteristic > impedance of the vias or from their geometrical dimensions? > > Thanks for anyone who can contribute > > Itzhak Hirshtal > Elta Electronics > Israel > > > > The information contained in this communication is proprietary to Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd. > and/or third parties, may contain confidential or privileged > information, and is intended only for the use of the intended > addressee thereof. If you are not the intended addressee, please be aware that any use, disclosure, distribution and/or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender > immediately and delete it from your computer. 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