[SI-LIST] Re: Diff.Pairs

  • From: "Lee Ritchey" <leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Chris Cheng" <chris.cheng@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:37:55 -0700

I've had both on the same design for many years.  Don't get you point.


> [Original Message]
> From: Chris Cheng <chris.cheng@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 10/3/2003 1:03:30 PM
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Diff.Pairs
>
> I thought you are old enough to remember the days when board traces are
wide
> (6-8 mils were state of the art) and technology don't mix (either you have
> ECL or CMOS as critical highspeed design on the system but not both). It
is
> easy to justify tight coupling of different pairs then. It still makes
sense
> for many designs where differential I/O is the only thing you care (e.g.
> FCAL or 3GIO subsystems or clusters).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Ritchey [mailto:leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: Duane Takahashi; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Diff.Pairs
>
>
> More than that, it does not have any benefit.  Tight coupling of
> differential pairs forces the traces to be narrower increasing the skin
> effect losses.  Also, this tight coupling is going to result in good old
> cross talk that actually degrades the edges.
>
> How the notion of tight coupling of differential pairs as beneficial got
> started is a mystery to me.  There are several references that show that
> tight coupling is not beneficial, one of them is Howard Johnson's latest
> book, at least one column he has written and my recently released book.
>
> Lee Ritchey
>
>
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