Siddharth- Typically when the RLC values for the various nets in a package are extracted, the extraction accounts for the RLC parasitics from the top of the die bump to the bottom of the BGA ball (for a flip-chip package). So even though pins (die bumps) may have identical geometries for each net, the connecting traces in the package may be of differing lengths which will lead to differing RLC values as reported in the IBIS model. Regards, -Ray Raymond Anderson Senior Signal Integrity Staff Engineer Programmable Platforms Development Silicon Technology Group Signal Integrity and Package Development Department Xilinx Inc. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Siddharth Rajagopalan Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:22 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Determination RLC value of a pin Dear experts, I came across some IBIS files for DDR memory where there are several RLC values for the pins of the same group. For example, Different pins of DQ group have different RLC values. I was of the understanding that the geometry of a pin (in this case, a bump under the IC) determines the RLC value of that particular pin. Don't these pins have the same bump geometry. why do we have different values?? Kindly help me correct my understanding. -- Thanks, Siddharth Rajagopalan Cisco systems . This email and any attachments are intended for the sole use of the named recipient(s) and contain(s) confidential information that may be proprietary, privileged or copyrighted under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, copy, or forward this email message or any attachments. Delete this email message and any attachments immediately. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu