[SI-LIST] Re: DDR3 Signal Quality & Timing Analysis - Probe Location at DRAM - Pin or Die?

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:25:05 -0700

Did you follow the JEDEC topology recommendations for the CLK?

Steve.
On 10/31/2011 3:13 AM, Pugazharasan Selvanathan - ERS, HCL Tech wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> My observations from the simulation results of a DDR3 interface (64 bit + 8 
> bit ECC) with five Micron DRAMs:
>
> In FAST corner, when CLK is probed at PIN of first DRAM in the daisy chain, 
> it has good signal quality (monotonic, no DC/Vref multi-crossing). But if it 
> is probed at DIE of the same DRAM, CLK is non-monotonic, multi-crosses DC and 
> Vref thresholds. Signal Quality improves at die of the other DRAMs as we 
> progress down the daisy chain, since the stub length between respective DRAMs 
> and termination decreases.
>
> Give your thoughts to improve the signal quality at first DRAM's die. 
> Currently, the output impedance of DDR3 Controller is set to 40ohms, which is 
> the maximum O/P impedance it supports.
>
> Thanks,
> Pugazharasan Selvanathan
> Member Technical Staff - Design Centric Services
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
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