It's really all over the map, even with motherboards using the same chipset. Some have no series term, others have 10 Ohm or 22 Ohm. The parallel terms vary from 27 Ohm up to 68 Ohm. Some use no series term for address/command and have a small cap to ground. Others have artwork for the cap but it's not stuffed. I think one motherboard had no series term and a 33 Ohm parallel term, while another (using the same chipset and claiming the same memory speeds) had no series term and a 68 Ohm parallel term. I would have thought that for a given chipset, there would be some combination of resistor values that would produce the best signal integrity. If I make the rash assumption that all of these implementations work equally well, my conclusion is that the value of the parallel termination isn't particularly critical. It seems to me that the only other possibility is that some of these manufacturers didn't do their homework, and their memory system designs are marginal. Bob --- Chris McGrath <chris.mcgrath@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Bob, > > I would guess that the series termination also > varies. Does it? > > -Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob McNamara > [mailto:electronbob2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:21 AM > > To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > Subject: [SI-LIST] DDR termination > > > > > > I was looking over motherboards at Fry's yesterday > and > > noticed quite a wide variation in the resistor > values > > used for parallel termination: 27, 33, and 56. > > > > Can anybody tell me why there is such a wide > variation? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bob > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' > in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, > go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.org > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu