Wyland, The non-isolated DC converters (buck) are classical blocks from Tyco, with switch, inductor and PWM comparator integrated. Can you help me? Thanks. JP -------------------------------------------------------------------- Jean-Pierre BOUTHEMY Hardware Design Engineer ALCATEL - Mobile Networking Division (MCG) Mobile Core R&D +33 (0)2 99 26 08 18 mailto:jean_pierre.bouthemy@xxxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------------------------------- |---------+----------------------------> | | Wyland | | | <dcwyland@xxxxxxx| | | om.com> | | | Sent by: | | | si-list-bounce@fr| | | eelists.org | | | | | | | | | 06/08/2003 20:48 | | | Please respond to| | | si-list | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | cc: | | Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: DC/DC converter output dip | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| A question: Are the non-isolated converters linear regulators or buck converters? A buck converter has a switch + inductor + comparator. A linear regulator just has an op amp and a pass transistor, which can be a mosfet. Jean_Pierre.Bouthemy@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: >Hi Chris, > >The design is a little bit complex. Let me try to clarify. >A +5V isolated converter is used as a "housekeeping" voltage that comes >first in order to supply the monitoring circuits. >I have a 3.3V isolated DC converter whose output feeds 3 non-isolated DC >converters: 2.5V, 1.8V and 1.5V. >The 4 voltages 3.3V, 2.5V, 1.8V and 1.5V are all monitored with the same >way. They each feed an op-amp with a resistor divider on the input+. The >input- is a common reference voltage of 1.2V. The feedback is made with a >1Mohm resistor between input+ and the output. >The output of the op-amp are pulled-up together to the "housekeeping" +5V >and feed a circuit to drive the MOS transistors at the output of the DC >converters. >When all four voltage have correct levels, the common outputs are at high >level, and a signal is activated to open the MOS so that the devices on the >board can be supplied. >Hope you better understand my design. > >The noise I have on the +2.5V output is not like ripple. The signal is high >at 2.5V during 90ms and then a 2ms pulse down to 1.5V. >I have investigated and it seems like it is due to the 90ms ripple noise on >the +5V output. But the problem is still nearly the same: when I remove the >resistor of the the +5V monitoring circuit, I have no noise anymore. >Strange isn't it? > >Could a simple RC filter at the output of the +5V DC converter do the job >of phase margin compensation? >Any help will be welcome. > >Jean-Pierre > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Jean-Pierre BOUTHEMY >Hardware Design Engineer >ALCATEL - Mobile Networking Division (MCG) >Mobile Core R&D >+33 (0)2 99 26 08 18 >mailto:jean_pierre.bouthemy@xxxxxxxxxx >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >|---------+------------------------------> >| | Christopher | >| | Jakubiec | >| | <Christopher.Jakubi| >| | ec@xxxxxxx> | >| | Sent by: | >| | si-list-bounce@free| >| | lists.org | >| | | >| | | >| | 06/08/2003 17:52 | >| | Please respond to | >| | si-list | >| | | >|---------+------------------------------> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | | > | To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | cc: | > | Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: DC/DC converter output dip | > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > > >Jean-Pierre, > >As I understand from your description you have a 2.5V output from the dc-dc > >converter that feeds into an op-amp comparator by using a resistor divider >on >the + and - inputs to the op-amp. Is this correct? It sounds like a very >basic >comparator setup. Are you using negative feedback with nothing connected >inbetween the output and input of the op-amp? > >Chris Jakubiec >Sun Microsystems > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu