Hi Raymond, Thanks for the detailed explanation. As you quoted ">When operated at parallel resonance the quartz resoantor contributes >180 degrees phase shift." Could you Pl. explain how the quartz resoantor contributes 180 degree phase shift? Thanks/- Pankaj On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 Ray Anderson wrote : > >Pankaj- > >A quartz crystal resonator has two resonant modes, series and >parallel. >(The series resonant frequency is (to a first order >approximation) >determined by the series combination of the motional inductance >and >motional capacitance of the quartz crystal. > >The parallel resonant frequency is determined by the series >connection >of the motional inductance and motional capacitance in parallel >with >the shunt holder capacitance. The series and parallel frequencies >are >very close to each other, typically separated by only a few >kilohertz. > >Also note that when operated in the series resonant mode, the >quartz >resonator contributes ZERO degrees phase shift at resonance. >When >operated at parallel resonance the quartz resoantor contributes >180 degrees phase shift. > >So an oscillator whose active element contributes 180 degrees >phase >shift (perhaps a single inverter) may be used at the parallel >resonant >frequency of the quartz resonator to sustain oscillation. (180 + >180 = >0 degrees or positive feedback). > >If your active elements contribute 0 degrees phase shift (say, >two >invertors), then the quartz resonator will operate in the series >resonant >mode (with zero degrees phase shift contributed by the crystal) >to >sustain oscillation at the series resonant frequency. > >Note that capacitive loading by the oscillator circuit can >'pull' >the actual frequency of oscillation slightly, and may >contribute >a small amount of phase shift that may cause the oscillator to >actually >operate slightly off the series or parallel resonant frequencies >of >the unloaded quartz resonator. > >I hope this explanation helps out. > >Ray Anderson >Staff SI Engineer >Sun Microsystems Inc. > > > > > >Hi Raymond, > > I have some querry about crystal oscillator at parallel >resonance. The > >reason, I am asking you personally is because I posted the same >question > >in SI list, but unfortunately didn't get any response. Your >help will be > >really appreciated. > > I understand in parallel resonance mode 180 degree(infact > >180) > >phase shift comes from inverter. Also, other 180 degree phase >shift will > >come from crystal and load. Now, crystal is modelled as >inductor above > >series resonance. That means, we are having inductor and >capacitor, which > >acts like tank circuit. But, tank circuit will give 0 degree >phase shift. > >So, I am wondering how we are getting the remaining 180 degree >phase shift? > > Any insight will be great help to me. Also, please forward me >some > >good links. > > > > Thanks in Advance. > > > >Pankaj Kumar > >IO Design Engineer > >ARTISAN COMPONENTS, INC. > > > >www.artisan.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject >field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ___________________________________________________ Download the hottest & happening ringtones here! OR SMS: Top tone to 7333 Click here now: http://sms.rediff.com/cgi-bin/ringtone/ringhome.pl ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu