Hi Fan, (1)You can use the Crosstalk Calculator provided by UltraCAD. (2)Assuming both data and address signals have the same rise/fall times, I believe crosstalk caused by the adjacent signal trace will be larger than that of between two layers, since the distance between adjacent traces is smaller. -- Regards, Chai >From: "Zhenhua Fan" <zhenhua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: zhenhua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] Cross-talk, which one is bigger? >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:42:20 -0400 > >Hi all, > >I have a stackup list this, > > ---------------- Primary side > ---------- Gnd > --------------- Signal 1 > --------------- Signal 2 > -------- Power > -------------- Signal 3 data bus, 5mil trace, edge-to-edge >space is 7mil > -------------- Signal 4 address bus, 5mil trace, >edge-to-edge space is 7mil. Space between signal 3 and 4 is 10mil > -------- Power > -------------- Signal 5 > -------------- Signal 6 > -------- Gnd > -------------- Secondary side >There is a data bus group on signal 3 and a address bus on signal 4, and >unfortunately they're in parallel (not in 90 degree due to room restrict). >Here comes my two question: > 1) How to calculate the cross-talk caused from address to the data bus? > 2) Comparing the cross-talk from address bus and the adjacent data bus, >which one is bigger? > >Thanks in advance, > >Zhenhua Fan > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu