[SI-LIST] Re: Criteria for ferrite beads [was Re: anlog and digital power plane isolation with ferrite bead good idea?]

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Alfred Lee <alfred1520list@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:48:36 -0800

Alfred, sure: It is Session 11-TA3 "PDN Application of Ferrite Beads".  
It will be presented as one of the Tuesday morning power sessions.

Steve.
Alfred Lee wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Understood.  Not a problem.  Can you share the title so I can be on the look 
> out?  Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Alfred
>
> "steve weir" <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>   
>> Alfred, it is not that I want to be a tease, but the second point is 
>> addressed in my DesignCon paper, which I am obligated not to preempt 
>> before it is presented next month.  But you are following the right 
>> train of reasoning.
>>
>> Steve.
>>
>> alfred1520list wrote:
>>     
>>> Dear List,
>>>
>>> I simply want to express my appreciation for this exceptionally
>>>       
>> educational list.
>>     
>>> Dear Steve,
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "steve weir" <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:07 PM
>>> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: anlog and digital power plane isolation with
>>>       
>> ferrite bead good idea?
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> The places where ferrite beads make sense are very distinct. 
>>>>         
>> Usually, 
>>     
>>>> no more than casual inspection of PDN requirements immediately
>>>>         
>> indicate 
>>     
>>>> whether a ferrite bead based filter is worth considering.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> For the benefit of the rest of us trying to get there, could you
>>>       
>> elaborate 
>>     
>>> on the second statement?  Would that be looking at the difference 
>>> between the power spectral density of the supply noise and the
>>>       
>> maximum 
>>     
>>> tolerable noise power spectral density of the IC and say that there
>>>       
>> needs to 
>>     
>>> be X dB of attenuation and ferrite beads would provide Y dB which is 
>>> greater than X and so it is obvious?
>>>
>>> If so, how to generate the two spectral plots if they are not readily
>>>       
>>> available?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Alfred Lee
>>>
>>>
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