[SI-LIST] Re: Coupling Between Adjacent Capacitors

  • From: Brian Rautio <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:42:56 +0000

I agree with Rick, but want to point out that it's also a function of the 
potential on the capacitors.  If we imagine two parallel plate capacitors side 
by side, with the planes of the plates co-linear, there is going to be 
significantly more coupling between them in odd mode than even mode, and 
conversely, even mode is more likely to couple with the rest of the circuit.

As far as the role orientation plays, it's no more complicated than e-fields 
going from high potential to low potential.  If you know the geometry and 
potentials, the best position and orientation should be self evident.  If you 
only know the geometry, there's a number of electromagnetic simulators that can 
plot e-field lines directly.

Brian


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From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Rick Collins
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:43 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Coupling Between Adjacent Capacitors

If capacitors were just simple plates separated by large air gaps, 
the parasitic effects might be more noticeable, but any cap you buy 
is either a series of plates with very small spacings like 
multi-layer ceramic caps, or made of layers rolled up.  The fringe 
effects would be very small indeed and likely no more than the stray 
capacitance of any components or traces on the board.

That said, I'm sure you can find some situations where this could be 
significant.  For example radial ceramic caps are just one layer and 
not very thin if I remember correctly.  I expect they might have a 
significant fringe field.  But I haven't used one of those in over 15 years.

Rick


At 11:22 AM 7/12/2011, Scuteri, Jeremy wrote:
>I have a question about coupling between adjacent capacitors and the 
>sensitivity to their orientation.  I have heard of turning inductors 
>90degrees to avoid magnetic coupling, but I did not think such a 
>thing applied to capacitors.  Maybe there could be some coupling of 
>the fringe field if the caps are very close to each other.  Has 
>anyone experienced a sensitivity to the orientation of capacitors?
>
>Thanks,
>Jeremy Scuteri
>
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