Hi All, That is the case for z axis drill vias. However, if you do a sequential lam blind via approach, you do have much more flexibility in your depth, but at a greater cost. Each half of the stack would be drilled and plated and then the halves put together and drilled and plated again. However there is fallout at each step that impacts yields and therefore cost. just my 0.02 Michael -----Original Message----- From: istvan novak [mailto:istvan.novak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:25 PM To: AdeelM@xxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Cost Factor of introducing Blind and Buried Vias Adeel, Every board shop may charge a different premium for blind and buried vias, so eventually the best is to get quotes from the pcb manufacturer you plan on using. The generic considerations are: - blind vias do not need extra processing step during lamination, only the drilling of blind vias after the lamination is done. Therefore blind vias are adding less cost. But blind vias are limited in aspect ratio (because of the plating process) and therefore in depth: one to two layers deep. - buried vias are between internal layers, but this means an extra drilling and plating step during lamination at EVERY stackup portion that carries a different buried via length. As these are through holes for the plating process, the aspect ratio limitation is not different from what you may get on the finished board. Because of the several extra processing steps, buried vias are much more expensive. Regards Istvan Novak SUN Microsystems ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adeel Malik" <AdeelM@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:14 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] Cost Factor of introducing Blind and Buried Vias > > Hi All, > I am designing a 10-layer board having 6-signal layers and 4 ground > planes. The baord has 4 BGA1156 Packages as well as QFP208 Packages. Due to > the routing denstiy, I have to use many vias which perforate the planes thus > enervating the integrity of power and ground planes. I expect the no. of > through-holes to be about 3000 . Can someone give me the crude approximation > that by how much times the cost of the Board will multiply if I introduce > Blind and Buried Vias ,thus reducing the through-hole vias piercing the > planes to about 200-300 instaed of 3000. > > ADEEL MALIK, > Design Engineer, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu