Syed, A minor addition. The procedure outlined below (generating step and impulse from detailed SPICE level simulation) provides an accurate response that AMI models and EDA platform will update and then use in time domain simulation by way of convolution. At the simulation stage, we can use complete non-linear models of Tx/Rx analog buffers. However, a validity of superposition (by convolution) of the generated responses assumes that Tx and Rx analog models are linear and time invariant (e.g. buffers' IV curves are straight lines and do not change in time) Vladimir ----- Original Message ----- Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:42:11 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Westerhoff <twesterh@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Correction: Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help Syed, ... I believe the way we generated the impulse response is the kit was by simulating a step response for the TX / channel / RX in HSPICE. The analog model we used for the RX represented the termination behavior only. We then took the step response and differentiated it to get the impulse response we included in the kit. Since the impulse response included in the toolkit includes the analog TX / channel / analog RX, running that impulse response with the TX algorithmic model provides the signal at the RX pad. Processing *that* waveform with a RX algorithmic model (not included in the kit) would yield the data signal at the RX sampling point. ... Todd. -- Todd Westerhoff VP, Software Products SiSoft 6 Clock Tower Place, Suite 250 Maynard, MA 01754 (978) 461-0449 x24 twesterh@xxxxxxxxxx www.sisoft.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syed Huq (huqs)" <huqs@xxxxxxxxx> To: twesterh@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 4:27:36 PM Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Correction: Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help Hi Todd, Pls correct me if I am wrong. I believe a RX Analog front end is needed (Along with a TX Analog IO model) for the Impulse response of the Channel. So how is that possible in the tool kit without a RX model. Tks Syed ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu