Bill, Large solid copper area's are usually frowned upon. Manufacturing usually prefers a cross hatched pattern. A large copper area will plate unevenly and negatively impacts current density. A multilayer design should be able to accommodate manufacturing needs in conjunction with electrical requirements. Some design houses do use copper thieving on inner signal layers to better control the copper etching process. But if you are using a dual strip line configuration for your stack up you need to be particularly careful about any signal integrity impact on adjacent signal layers. Inner planes generally are already mostly copper,dimensions are not as critical, and manufacturing modifications could be catastrophic to signal return paths. regards, bob Bill Mueller wrote: > Hello again all, > > It's nice to have a name to it. Thanks for all the > great information. > > My buddy and I here usually fill large open areas > with solid planes stapled to the nearest power/ground > plane. Pretty much to add another reference to signals > on adjacent layers. > > So two more questions come to mind: > > 1. If we started making many-layered boards (8-10+), > would these manufacturing considerations begin > to out-weigh the electrical benifits? > > 2. Is copper thieving used on internal layers? > > Thanks again, > -Bill -- Robert J. Haller (rhaller@xxxxxxxxxx) Principal Consultant Signal Integrity Software Inc. 6 Clock Tower Place, Suite 250 Maynard, MA 01754 Phone: (978) 461-0449, ext 15 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu