> >Hi! The formula for conversion from ohm to dB is : >Ztrans=25*10^(|S21|/20). >So if S21=-60dB then Ztrans=25000, what is this value >in i.e. units is in ohm but do I need to divide it >with some factor to get in ohms. >I am trying to convert and it is not corelating. >Any inputs appreciated. >Thanks >Bob > I don't think you want the absolute value of S21, but the signed value of S21. (there is a difference between -60 dB and 60 dB) The expression 10^(dB/20) converts from dB to a dimensionless S21 value. (The dB value is relative to a straight thru calibration value which would be 0 dB) The transfer impedance is then (S21 * Zo) which will then be in ohms. Note that for this expression to be valid, the impedance being measured must be much, much less than 25 (which is the parallel combo of the generator impedance and the load impedance). Example: Assume a pair of planes with a decoupling cap between the power plane and the reference plane. Probing the plane at two separate locations (say A and B) with a VNA gives a measured value of -60 dB (compared to a straight thru calibration connection) at the resonant frequency of the decap. then: S21 = 10^(-60dB/20) = .001 Z21 = S21 * 25 ohms Z21 = .001 * 25 (25 milliohms) which in this case is the ESR of the power distribution system. See Istvan Novak's web site for a copy of a nice Designcon 2000 paper covering this topic: http://home.att.net/~istvan.novak/papers/dc2000_rev.pdf -Ray Sun Microsystems Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu