[SI-LIST] Re: Common mode perfornace of Serdes Channel

  • From: "Yuriy Shlepnev" <shlepnev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <emcesd@xxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 09:07:47 -0700

Hi Tesla,

The effect of the common mode on eye can be roughly separated into three
quantifiable and inter-related areas.

1. Common to differential mode transformation and the other way around, also
observed as skew. Any discontinuity for the common mode immediately affect
the mode transformation. For instance, if strip differential traces turn
left, it causes the mode transformation. It should be compensated with the
mirror right turn. Though, if you put a discontinuity between the turns
(vias or capacitors), the compensation will not happen. See more on the mode
transformation at app notes #2009_01 and #2013_06 at
http://www.simberian.com/AppNotes.php This will affect the eye.

2. Common mode localization. Common mode coupling to parallel plane
structures at the non-localized differential vias for instance may cause
unwanted coupling between PDN and the link path for the differential signal,
taking into account the mode transformation. Worst of all, the behavior of
un-localized vias is not predictable at high frequencies (requires whole
board analysis, that is not possible with sufficient accuracy for practical
cases). This will also affect the eye.

3. Common mode termination. Poor common mode termination may turn a
microstrip link path into antenna with possible EMI consequences. Even with
good termination, discontinuities such as vias or capacitors can case common
mode resonances with EMI consequences. Unterminated common mode can also
affect the eye through the mode transformation, especially for the
microstrip links.

Best regards,
Yuriy

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Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 1:47 AM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Common mode perfornace of Serdes Channel

Hi Expert


In the case of optimizing channel IL and RL, most time we only consider the
differential mode of channel. For example, Using larger antipad for via and
void the plane beneath the AC capacitor to improve the differential IL,
while degrading the common mode performance.
My question is that the common mode performan relly do not affect the Eye?
Can we always let the common mode perfomance of channel be?


Thanks and Best Regards.


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