But ... you might want to be sure that the signals avoid being routed over unregulated power planes, if they exist in your design. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Dudi Tash <dudi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Krunal, > Based on some studies (both Simulations and Measurements), as long as > you're under 2.5Gbps, passing over/under plane splits will have minor > effect on your design. > > Best Regards, > Dgtronix Ltd. I Founder & CEO I Dudi Tash > eFax: +972-3-7256490 I Mobile: +972-54-6345629 I Office: +972-9-9660967 > www.dgtronix-tech.com > > > > > > > > > > > > *This email contains confidential and proprietary information of Dgtronix > Ltd.* > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Krunal Desai > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:53 PM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Clarification on Trace Routing over Plane Splits > > Hi all - > > I have previously spent time in the high-speed realm, routing PCIe, SATA, > HT, and many other high-speed digital signals where the thought of having > them cross a reference plane split never even crossed my mind (i.e. never > do it, and use stitching caps or vias if you absolutely must). > > I'm now working on some lower speed signals (the fastest is 10MHz with > ~6ns rise time) but I have it firmly entrenched in my brain that I should > still never cross plane splits. Unfortunately, I am very, very > space-constrained in this application and due to its nature (power > supply) I have split planes everywhere, leaving me a grand total of one > layer available with an unbroken reference. I used that layer for all the > 'fast' signals (SPI, clock). > > I have some essentially DC signals (Reset, power enables, things that get > toggled once and then draw microamps of current) that I have triage'd to > run over various plane splits. If I understand the teachings of Ritchie, > Johnson, Archembault and others (hi guys!) the return path for these > signals will follow the path of least resistance, not impedance, and > leverage one of my large ground planes. > > So to sum: I am running DC/sub-Hz signals over plane splits, what can I > expect from an EMI / noise perspective? I believe this is not ideal, but > acceptable due to the very low frequency content of these signals, and the > fact that return current will flow through my power planes, not immediately > below the conductor. > > I have extensive decoupling capacitors present, and I plan on optimizing > my PCB stackup to use thinner cores to improve high-frequency response of > my power plane/GND plane pairs. > > Thanks, > Krunal > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > -- Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 16 Stormy Brook Rd Falmouth, ME 04105 (401) 284-1827 Business http://www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed® is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu