[SI-LIST] Re: Choice of SI and PI tools

  • From: icer world <icermail@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Cole Neim <terrraxx@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:51:30 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Cole:
        Apache Design Solution has the completely solution for SI and PI 
analysis of system design , including chip and package and PCB design. 
        For PI, Our Redhawk can help you do PI analysis for chip design and 
system design. 
        For SI, I highly recommand you to use our tools Sentinel. Sentinel can 
help you do SI and PI analysis for full IO Bank, especially for DDRx interface. 
It can do timing analysis and eya-diagram analysis and overshoot analysis. 
Sentinel includes a model extractor module called PSI , which can help you 
extract PCB and Package model . After preparing all the modles of PCB and IO 
buffer and Package, our Sentinel-sso can integrate all the models to gernerate 
the spice deck compatible for Hspice and Eldo and then you can run it with 
yourself simulator.
       Our tools have quick simulaton speed with high accuracy and welcome to 
do 
evalution for them.  
       If you have some interesting about our tools, please let me know and I 
will ask our AE to contact with you.
       Thanks a lot! 
      
       
        



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From: Cole Neim <terrraxx@xxxxxxxxx>
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 3:18:37 AM
Subject: [SI-LIST] Choice of SI and PI tools

Hi,
I am about to start evaluating software to help me with my PI
simulations at first, then doing SI. For SI, I am interest in 
measurements like insertion loss, crosstalk and delay, etc. My 
interconnects are mostly differential traces on PCB. Other team members 
might be interested at the package level (eventually).
Also interfacing with HSpice is a key feature I am looking for. How broad band 
is the spice netlist generated (how high in frequency is it reliable?)

Been reading literature from Ansoft and Sigrity (SiWave,  Speed200).

I am curious to get any feedback on pluses and minuses of both tools from 
people 
who used them before I try them out.

Your time is greatly appreciated.

CN


      
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