Hi Cole: Apache Design Solution has the completely solution for SI and PI analysis of system design , including chip and package and PCB design. For PI, Our Redhawk can help you do PI analysis for chip design and system design. For SI, I highly recommand you to use our tools Sentinel. Sentinel can help you do SI and PI analysis for full IO Bank, especially for DDRx interface. It can do timing analysis and eya-diagram analysis and overshoot analysis. Sentinel includes a model extractor module called PSI , which can help you extract PCB and Package model . After preparing all the modles of PCB and IO buffer and Package, our Sentinel-sso can integrate all the models to gernerate the spice deck compatible for Hspice and Eldo and then you can run it with yourself simulator. Our tools have quick simulaton speed with high accuracy and welcome to do evalution for them. If you have some interesting about our tools, please let me know and I will ask our AE to contact with you. Thanks a lot! ________________________________ From: Cole Neim <terrraxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 3:18:37 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] Choice of SI and PI tools Hi, I am about to start evaluating software to help me with my PI simulations at first, then doing SI. For SI, I am interest in measurements like insertion loss, crosstalk and delay, etc. My interconnects are mostly differential traces on PCB. Other team members might be interested at the package level (eventually). Also interfacing with HSpice is a key feature I am looking for. How broad band is the spice netlist generated (how high in frequency is it reliable?) Been reading literature from Ansoft and Sigrity (SiWave, Speed200). I am curious to get any feedback on pluses and minuses of both tools from people who used them before I try them out. Your time is greatly appreciated. CN ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu