Dear steve.. Happy new year to all ( wishing "signal integrity and quality " through out the year ! ) Steve, when you short circuit the signal ground with earth, what is the possibility of encroaching the ESD to the circuit- which normally discharged through the shield ? Or in another way, isolated ground and shield or short circuited ground and shield - which will be good for the circuit ; while viewing through the eyes of ESD Thanks and Regards, Ranjul.B. Thanks and Regards, Ranjul.B. steve weir <weirsp@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/31/2003 07:45 PM Please respond to weirsp To: si_fan_1@xxxxxxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc: Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Chassis and Digital grounds connection si_fan, the first issue of ground is safety. If you choose to join the digital and chassis grounds together, which is very common, then you need to ensure that the chassis does not become a return power conductor that bypasses the intended return current wiring. If you are building a system with isolated DC-DC converters, this tends to be easily met by joining the power return to chassis at only the power source, and keeping that isolated through the wiring and up to the DC-DC converters. If you DC isolate the chassis and signal ground, more common when there is a big low-voltage supply feeding multiple assemblies, then your EMI suppression is going to be a lot trickier and you will need to provide for lots of AC bypass between the two grounds. You are placed in a position of needing to find a way to suppress any common mode on your signal ground before it gets out on those copper cables. Mark Montrose has covered the issue in his book "EMC and the Printed Circuit Board", as have other authors. Steve. At 12:06 AM 12/31/2003 -0800, si_fan_1@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm beginning a new project and discussing the ground scheme. >I'm talking here about a multi board design that will fit into a few U >height chassis. There are dozens of ports out of the box (2.5Gb/s each) >over copper cable. > >One of the concepts is connecting all the grounds together (both chassis >and digital of the boards and cable connectors). >The other method is separation of the chassis and digital grounds with >one connection between them (close to the power supply). >I'm aware that both methods are used but would like to better understand >what are the reasons to choose one way on top of the other? what are the >pros and cons of each in terms of EMI? > >Thanks, > >-- >http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu