You can do whatever job you can do. Experience in other areas from former jobs is never a stumbling block, but it can be a stepping stone. The job you get is largely a matter of how you present yourself and the job you keep depends on your ability to get the results that are expected from you. Maybe you will have a steep learning curve, but no one is going to look down on you for being a designer, its just a different kind of puzzle to solve (and if you are using that as an excuse for being out of work so long, I think you are on the wrong track). In fact, some companies may appreciate having someone who knows a little bit about the manufacturing side of things, someone who has seen how those design decisions affect the final product. Board designers turn ideas into reality, So you want to be more of an "idea-man"? Go for it. best wishes, Jack (a life-long circuit board designer) "gsletch" <gsletch@xxxxxxxx m> Sent by: To si-list-bounce@fr To eelists.org si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc 11/10/2004 10:36 AM Please respond to Subject gsletch@xxxxxxxxx [SI-LIST] Career Advice for a junior EE Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 12/10/2004 Retention Category: G90 - General Matters/Administration I have a question, not technical per se, but more career advice related. I am an unemployed EE(US Citizen) with about 3 years experience in the hard hit telecom/computer server industry. My first job out of school was mainly doing high speed digital PCB layout. On occasion, I did some simple schematic capture and I was trained in Cadence's signal integrity tools, but never got into it like I was promised...industry started to tank, environment changed, etc. Long story...anyway. Now to my question, how do engineers/managers view a "newbie" whose previous job was as a PCB Designer, but wants to get into more board level circuit design with less physical design other than supervising layout designers or doing some myself when needed? I feel that the PCB layout exp. was helpful, but not challenging enough; hence, the lateral career move. Am I looked down upon because I was a PCB Designer? Will there ever be an opportunity as a Hardware Engineer? The job market doesn't seem to want to open up for the junior level people...it is closing in on 2 years out of work for me.... I have a BSEE with Graduate level courses in FPGA/ASIC design and (soon to be) board design. Do I have a chance or am I wasting my time? Opinions are welcomed.... ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu