What is the preferred method by SI engineers for creating Wline models for Hspice? Is it using the RLGC outputs of the Hspice internal field solver or using an external field solver? Has anyone verified the accuracy of the Hspice field solver? Thanks and regards, Fabrizio Zanella Signal Integrity Engineer Broadbus Technologies fabrizioz@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott McMorrow Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:05 PM To: sukhui@xxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Capacitance Formula Suk Hui, Personally, rather than trust the equations, I would use a commercially available field solver to solve for the geometry. If you have Hspice, you can use the built-in field solver to calculate just what you want. Ultimately, individual values of L and C are fairly meaningless for a package. What you want to know is the characteristic impedance of the trace. Some low cost field solvers like Linpar will also give you what you need. regards, scott -- Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 2926 SE Yamhill St. Portland, OR 97214 (503) 239-5536 http://www.teraspeed.com Suk Hui Teh wrote: >Hi, > >I am currently analysing some package design traces and >I have come about a couple of microstrip traces where, >0.1< W/H < 3.0 > >What are the formulas for calculating capacitance, Zo and inductance >for these type of traces? > >Many thanks, >Suk Hui > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu