Every piece of metal "near" the trace of interest changes its impedance. Christopher E. Reid Chief Scientist and Founder Pressando SI 9315 SW Lake Street Tigard, OR 97223-6034 503-869-6703 (cell) 503-624-8159 (home) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Xilei Liu" <xileil@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <sunil_bharadwaz@xxxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: CPW > Sunil, > > In my view, even the traces are routed on the inner Layers ,the ground > should still effect the impedance of the clock trace, as the impedance is > obtained from L, C which are related to the gap between the trace and the > ground, the dielectric constant(including both dielectric and air), trace > width etc. > > Celine > > > >>From: sunil bharadwaz <sunil_bharadwaz@xxxxxxxxx> >>Reply-To: sunil_bharadwaz@xxxxxxxxx >>To: si-list <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Subject: [SI-LIST] CPW >>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:04:49 -0700 (PDT) >> >>Hello All , >> >> When a high freq clock trace is run on the Top Layer (Microstrip) , the >>impedance >> would change if ground gaurding is provided on either sides.This is >>because >> then impedance calculations would pertain to that of a Coplanar Wave >>Guide. >> The trace to copper clearance will set the impeadance along with the >>actual >> trace width,Dielectric constant & etc. >> >> I believe that for the clock traces routed on the inner Layers >>(Stripline) ,the >> ground gaurding does not effect the impedance of the clock trace. >> >> Pls correct me if this wrong. >> >> Thanks in Advance >> >> Regards >> Sunil >> __________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>To unsubscribe from si-list: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >>or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >>//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >>For help: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >>List FAQ wiki page is located at: >> http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >> >>List technical documents are available at: >> http://www.si-list.org >> >>List archives are viewable at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >>or at our remote archives: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >>Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu