Tomus Hun, Have you tried viewing this curve graphically? This does not look like = any power clamp curve I've seen or would expect to see from a CMOS = circuit. I'm not saying that it is impossible, but it would take a lot = of engineering (or a big mistake) to make a circuit do this. If you = just want to get the simulation to run and don't care about whether or = not it's correct, you could comment out the data points at voltages = less than -1.3V. Regards, Weston Beal -----Original Message----- From: Tomus Hun [mailto:chinesechunghwa@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:24 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] CMOS is right but can't be do in XTK or ICX. Hi all :=20 I get the I-V curve in IBIS table. [POWER_clamp] | voltage I(typ) I(min) =20 I(max) | -3.3000 5.8950mA 5.4280nA =20 0.5186nA -3.2000 5.9690mA 5.7590nA =20 0.4453nA -3.1000 6.2130mA 5.7410nA =20 0.4886nA -3.0000 6.8610mA 5.6070nA =20 0.4154nA -2.9000 8.5250mA 5.7060nA =20 0.4587nA -2.8000 10.6600mA 5.5720nA =20 0.2690nA -2.7000 11.2400mA 5.5550nA =20 0.1959nA -2.6000 10.9300mA 5.4210nA =20 0.2392nA -2.5000 10.4700mA 5.4040nA =20 0.3989nA -2.4000 9.9570mA 5.2710nA =20 0.3258nA -2.3000 9.4210mA 5.6040nA =20 0.2526nA -2.2000 8.8770mA 5.5300nA =20 0.4124nA -2.1000 8.3370mA 5.5140nA =20 0.4557nA -2.0000 7.8140mA 5.4390nA =20 0.4991nA -1.9000 7.3230mA 5.4230nA =20 0.3096nA -1.8000 6.9050mA 5.5240nA =20 0.4694nA -1.7000 6.6980mA 5.5670nA =20 0.3963nA -1.6000 8.5240mA 5.3180nA =20 0.4397nA -1.5000 28.6500mA 5.4780nA =20 0.3667nA -1.4000 43.7900mA 5.3460nA =20 0.2354nA -1.3000 46.3700mA 5.3310nA =20 0.2206nA -1.2000 46.0700mA 5.2000nA =20 0.2640nA -1.1000 44.2700mA 5.5340nA =20 0.3074nA -1.0000 41.5400mA 5.3450nA =20 0.2344nA -0.9000 38.2200mA 5.3300nA =20 0.2778nA -0.8000 34.4900mA 5.2580nA =20 0.1466nA -0.7000 30.4600mA 5.3630nA =20 0.2482nA -0.6000 26.2000mA 5.3370nA =20 0.2334nA -0.5000 21.8000mA 5.4710nA =20 0.2186nA -0.4000 17.3900mA 8.9320nA =20 0.2620nA -0.3000 13.0000mA 4.6600nA =20 0.1308nA -0.2000 8.6280mA 3.8770nA =20 0.1160nA -0.1000 4.2870mA 3.7780nA =20 0.2758nA 0.0000 1.1450nA 3.7060nA =20 0.1439nA | This can't be do in ICx or XTK, this may be have troble in the power clamp CMOS transistor circuit. If the circuit can not be change ,it must only simulate in SPICE,and the IBIS is only dummy for the PCB simulation at this version 3.2. The IBIS users give up for the condition.Is there no body can relieve from=20 this bad stipulation. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? =B5n=B0O=A7K=B6O=AA=BA @yahoo.com.tw =B9q=A4l=B6l=A5=F3 @ = http://mail.yahoo.com.tw Get your free @yahoo.com.tw address at http://mail.yahoo.com.tw ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu