[SI-LIST] Re: CMOS is right but can't be do in XTK or ICX.

  • From: "Beal, Weston" <weston_beal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'chinesechunghwa@xxxxxxxxxxxx'" <chinesechunghwa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:45:46 -0700

Tomus Hun,

Have you tried viewing this curve graphically?  This does not look like =
any power clamp curve I've seen or would expect to see from a CMOS =
circuit.  I'm not saying that it is impossible, but it would take a lot =
of engineering (or a big mistake) to make a circuit do this.  If you =
just want to get the simulation to run and don't care about whether or =
not it's correct, you could comment out the data points at voltages =
less than -1.3V.

Regards,
Weston Beal


-----Original Message-----
From: Tomus Hun [mailto:chinesechunghwa@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:24 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] CMOS is right but can't be do in XTK or ICX.



Hi all :=20

I get the I-V curve  in IBIS table.

[POWER_clamp]
| voltage     I(typ)              I(min)            =20
I(max)
|
  -3.3000        5.8950mA            5.4280nA        =20
  0.5186nA
  -3.2000        5.9690mA            5.7590nA        =20
  0.4453nA
  -3.1000        6.2130mA            5.7410nA        =20
  0.4886nA
  -3.0000        6.8610mA            5.6070nA        =20
  0.4154nA
  -2.9000        8.5250mA            5.7060nA        =20
  0.4587nA
  -2.8000       10.6600mA            5.5720nA        =20
  0.2690nA
  -2.7000       11.2400mA            5.5550nA        =20
  0.1959nA
  -2.6000       10.9300mA            5.4210nA        =20
  0.2392nA
  -2.5000       10.4700mA            5.4040nA        =20
  0.3989nA
  -2.4000        9.9570mA            5.2710nA        =20
  0.3258nA
  -2.3000        9.4210mA            5.6040nA        =20
  0.2526nA
  -2.2000        8.8770mA            5.5300nA        =20
  0.4124nA
  -2.1000        8.3370mA            5.5140nA        =20
  0.4557nA
  -2.0000        7.8140mA            5.4390nA        =20
  0.4991nA
  -1.9000        7.3230mA            5.4230nA        =20
  0.3096nA
  -1.8000        6.9050mA            5.5240nA        =20
  0.4694nA
  -1.7000        6.6980mA            5.5670nA        =20
  0.3963nA
  -1.6000        8.5240mA            5.3180nA        =20
  0.4397nA
  -1.5000       28.6500mA            5.4780nA        =20
  0.3667nA
  -1.4000       43.7900mA            5.3460nA        =20
  0.2354nA
  -1.3000       46.3700mA            5.3310nA        =20
  0.2206nA
  -1.2000       46.0700mA            5.2000nA        =20
  0.2640nA
  -1.1000       44.2700mA            5.5340nA        =20
  0.3074nA
  -1.0000       41.5400mA            5.3450nA        =20
  0.2344nA
  -0.9000       38.2200mA            5.3300nA        =20
  0.2778nA
  -0.8000       34.4900mA            5.2580nA        =20
  0.1466nA
  -0.7000       30.4600mA            5.3630nA        =20
  0.2482nA
  -0.6000       26.2000mA            5.3370nA        =20
  0.2334nA
  -0.5000       21.8000mA            5.4710nA        =20
  0.2186nA
  -0.4000       17.3900mA            8.9320nA        =20
  0.2620nA
  -0.3000       13.0000mA            4.6600nA        =20
  0.1308nA
  -0.2000        8.6280mA            3.8770nA        =20
  0.1160nA
  -0.1000        4.2870mA            3.7780nA        =20
  0.2758nA
   0.0000        1.1450nA            3.7060nA        =20
  0.1439nA
|

This can't be do in ICx or XTK, this may be have
troble in the power clamp  CMOS transistor circuit.
If the circuit can not  be change ,it must only
simulate  in SPICE,and the IBIS is only dummy for the
PCB simulation at this version 3.2. The IBIS users
give up for the condition.Is there no body can relieve
from=20
this bad stipulation.


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