hi all, I'm helping someone with a problem transmitting single ended, 5 ns rise time signals over flat cable. Not surprisingly, this only works to a length of 2' or so and a quick check on the scope revealed massive xtalk. This is happening even though the aggressor is surrounded by grounds. So I immediately suggested substituting twist and flat style cable so they could still use the IDC connectors and minimize downtime or custom cables. As I checked the twisted pair cabling specs I started to question the benefit of UTP for single ended signal transmission but I think I have convinced myself that it will still result in a big improvement. The reason for this is that the majority of xtalk in UTP is from capacitive coupling, as opposed to inductive coupling. The capacitive coupling, since it alternates from positive to negative based on the twists, largely cancels out as compared to the flat cable which enjoys no such advantage. This of course is independent of the receiver type being single ended or differential. Of course there will still be some inductive coupling since the wires do have space between them (in fact I don't think the spacing between wire pairs is much different between flat and twisted flat) and I think this results in common mode noise which of course would be canceled by a differential receiver. Is my reasoning reasonably correct? ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu