Hi SI LIST, I have a question about power to power plane spacing in designing a stackup and whether I should be concerned about noise coupling from one plane to another. I have searched the archives on this topic and have only found discussions of spacing between split power planes on the same layer. We are designing a large, dense, double sided board, multiple 1100+ ball FPGAs at 225MHZ+, SPI4, DDR, CSIX, PCI etc. - the normal alphabet soup. There are over two dozen different voltages required for these multiple devices and interfaces. Added to this are red-black data security boundaries which should not be crossed. These voltages have been distributed across six power planes, not including VTT DDR miniplanes on the top and bottom of the PWB. In designing the stackup I am trying to maintain ground referencing as much as possible for the signals and am therefore creating power ground pairs toward the center of the stack with GND SIG SIG GND planes away from the center. Distance between layers is 3.5-4 mils.. In order to reduce the number of power and ground plane pairs and have additional routing layers I would like to cheat a bit, if possible, and create the following stackup in the center of the board: PWR1 PWR2 GND4 PWR3 PWR4 GND5 PWR5 PWR6 PWR1 and PWR6 contain high speed interface IOs (2.5V TTL and CSIX) and only traces associated with these voltages will be run adjacent to them. For this particular design power plane coupling that is too much could be analyzed on 3 levels that I can think of: 1. Red-black data security issues: Anyone monitoring accessible black interfaces picking up red - unencrypted - information. There is no overlap between red and black voltage planes and there is a gap between them. I am assuming that this should not be a problem. There will probably be a picket fence between them. 2. There are 0.75 volt CSIX reference voltages on one plane (PWR3) adjacent to 3.3v I/O voltage on the neighboring plane (PWR4). Coupling into a reference voltage to create erroneous data. 3. There are core voltage planes (PWR2) adjacent to 2.5v I/O. Coupling between these two voltages. Is there a way to estimate the amount of coupling (5%, 10% ?) between adjacent power planes versus distance or isn't this really an issue? Much Thanks In Advance, Ned Dempsher Senior Member Engineering Staff L-3 Communications ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu