Hi, In an Allegro layout for a dense high-speed design, there may be 30 coupled segments or more for a given victim signal, depending on the Geometry Window you use. Displaying this in SigXplorer would basically be a mess. So detailed post-layout xtalk simulation is done at the board level with SPECCTRAQuest, not extracted into SigXp. You can click on the Probe icon to select some signals for analysis. You do have the ability to extract coupled diff pairs into SigXp from layout, and also the ability to build any coupled topology interactively in SigXp for what-if analysis. Hope this helps. Ken -----Original Message----- From: yifan@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:yifan@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:00 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] About SpecctraQuest Crosstalk Simulation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,SI Experts I am now using SpecctraQuest to do post-layout simulation. I got in =3D trouble while doing crosstalk simulation. In SigXpert topology =3D environment, I cant extract crosstalk group(including victim nets and = =3D aggressor nets). So when I selected crosstalk radio listed in =3D "Measurement tab" and pushed "Signal Simulate" button, it prompted that =3D "Simulation aborted. A crosstalk simulation cannot be run without at = =3D least one coupled-trace part in the topology." I had walked through the =3D whole SpecctraQuest's reference book, but could not find out any methods =3D to extract all the suspicious nets into topology window.(eg.All the =3D time,only one net path from drive to receiver appears.)One point needed =3D to mention, I had set Analyze->SI/EMI =3D Sim->Preference->InterconnectModels Tab->Crosstalk in pretty values. Any body here can point out the solution for me? All advices are welcome. =3D20 =3D20 Regards Beck =3D20 -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/gif -- File: Ivy.gif -- Desc: Ivy.gif ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu