I would be concerned about the measurement being Nominal instead of Min. Jon -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sexton, Brian M. (US SSA) Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:08 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] 65 Ohm compact PCI impedance I'm designing a 5-slot, 66MHz cPCI backplane. We recently sent our design out for fab, and the board house came back saying they were measuring our compact PCI lines to be in the 57 ohm range. We have .020" wide guard traces connecting the 'Z' and 'F' ground rows of adjacent cPCI connectors. They claim this is the reason for the lower impedance. The cPCI traces are about .005" wide and run about .026 from the guard traces between connectors. They also run about .024" from vias for the cPCI pins. I'm curious if the guard traces have that much of an effect on the impedance. I would think the via fields would play a significant role in reducing the characteristic impedance as well. I'm wondering if the cPCI standard assumes you take all these external factors into account, or if they assume you shoot for 65 ohms but get slightly lower in reality. I can't reduce the trace width since it's already at .0045 - .005". Does anyone have any experience with this? Also does anyone have experience running cPCI at an impedance that is slightly below the 10% tolerance? 57 ohms is almost with in the 10% window of [58.5 - 71.5]. Thanks for your help. Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu