[SI-LIST] Re: 10 Layer Stack-up board/TWR PCB

  • From: Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Filion, Marc-Andre" <marc-andre.filion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:02:36 -0700 (PDT)

My post are showing up either without content or partial?   Hopefully this one 
post correctly.  This is the stack-up I would consider for Jayasuryan board:
 
TOP      
 
GND                      
DVDD1_2/D2VDD1_2/DVDD1_8

GND

SIG1/SIG2
 
SIG3/SIG4

GND

DVDD5/DVDD3_3

GND 

BOTTOM


Regards,
-Jory
 
 

From: "Filion, Marc-Andre" <marc-andre.filion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: 10 Layer Stack-up board/TWR PCB

Hi,
I've always heard that it's a golden rule to have a symmetrical and balanced 
stackup, is it just a solid myth or does it have solid roots?
Is it possible to have a non-balanced PCB? Does the dielectric must be also 
balanced or just the copper layer?
What are the impact of having an unbalanced stackup? 

Best regards,

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This is a better baanced stack!
 
 
 

-JOry
 

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From: Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>; Jayasuryan KG 
<suryan_tvm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:23 PM
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: 10 Layer Stack-up board/TWR PCB


retrun = return

and another typo PWR/SIG on lower layer needs swapped better decoupling loop.

 TOP

GND1

DVDD1_2/D2VDD1_2/DVDD1_8

GND

SIG1/SIG2

GND

SIG3/SIG4

GND

DVDD5/DVDD3_3

BOTTOM

-Jory


 
From: Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Jayasuryan KG <suryan_tvm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
<si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 1:53 PM
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: 10 Layer Stack-up board/TWR PCB


I would consider better power/gnd return, keep in mind loop inductance to 
appropriate power (TOP/BOTTOM) placement, you can swap power planes where 
needed.  This will reduce retrun path discontinuity and potential cavity 
resonance.  Make sure to include z-axis via retrun stitching.

TOP

GND1

DVDD1_2/D2VDD1_2/DVDD1_8

GND

SIG1/SIG2

GND

DVDD5/DVDD3_3

GND

SIG3/SIG4

BOTTOM

-Jory


From: Jayasuryan KG <suryan_tvm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: [SI-LIST] 10 Layer Stack-up board/TWR PCB

Dear Experts,


I have a question regarding my Through Wall Radio(TWR) PCB. My stack-up is as 
follows.



TOP

GND1

SIG1/DVDD1_8 

SIG2/DVDD1_2

PWR1/DVDD3_3

PWR2/DVDD5

SIG3/D2VDD1_2 

SIG4/DVDD5

GND2

BOTTOM



Max current in this board is less than 1A and interfaces like ADC,DAC and video 
signals. 

Also my RF interfaces are going on the top portion of the board, which is 
completely isolated form others and running under GND plane. (find the link for 
pictures) 



https://picasaweb.google.com/104062213607119029710/October312011#5669711738723806994

https://picasaweb.google.com/104062213607119029710/October312011#5669711807720941682



I am wondering is there any issue, if I split the power planes like the above 
layer stack-up? Or any can give better suggestions! 



Looking for your valuable help. 



Best Regards,

- Jayasuryan 




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