[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: yes or no - 9 days is up!
- From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx, CagGra@xxxxxxx, d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
Hi all,
I have been on the road for the last 2 days. I whelped a litter as soon as I
drove in the driveway and am now just getting to the list.
First if my description of Carmen upset anyone I am sorry but you guys
totally missed the point. I was pointing out that Carmen was a normal human,
not a giant that could intimidate by his very size. He wasn't wearing a
Superman Suit and he didn't speak on behalf of Hunte before the vote. Some say
he can intimidate by his very presence. As it was pointed out I do not know
Carmen it must be an East coast thing. It is said that he has done many good
things for the GSDCA club past. I would not put this last act in the good pile.
Tried Terry in Oregon.
Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx wrote:
In a message dated 2/7/2007 8:07:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,
caggra@xxxxxxx writes:
If anyone in that room that day was tricked by a magic show and realizes it
now, they should step up and say so. I would have more respect for that,
over silence & avoidance.
Jeff Pyle
AND.........
But this constant rhetoric that the Board
was in fear and at risk to be sued and misinformed?? We have D & O
coverage anyway.
There never was a threat of a law suit and there was never any "conflicting"
legal advice
and there never was any conflict of information.
The Board was never in disarray or in mass confusion and fear, nor given
conflicting legal counsel
or threatened or rushed to judgement. We had three months to give this
vote serious consideration
and research Hunte Corp. and listen to the membership, and Mr. Hunte was
allowed to speak on
behalf of his business and self.
That's IT!
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
_www.marhaven.com_ (http://www.marhaven.com)
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Tell you one thing we all seem to agree on - we are a passionate lot with
our convictions.
Read Jeff's post, then re read Carolyns post below it.
Then think about this......this WAS a closed session, our club's guidelines
clearly say what happens in closed session will be not be discussed. Some
who were in there are speaking, some are not. Personal choice, by if you
follow the guidelines, you don't discuss it. Erstwhile, I do appreciate the
reasons that those who did chose to speak explained their position. Their
choice.
I don't agree with the yes voters, I can't support the decision to allow
Hunte in OUR club, but, as many others have said, a lot of those yes voters are
friends and will continue to be. I will not make it personal on that count.
I did make a personal issue with Carmen on this....he has a much more
intense involvement with Hunte than the rest and certainly gives the appearance
of
support both in and out of the board room. Because of that I think he
should have removed himself from the proceedings.
BUT, what has happened is all history now - and I do not think we have the
right to push outside of our clubs guidelines and try to force the yes voters
hand. If they have not spoken yet, they aren't going to. Move on folks. If
you want to remember who they are, do that. Personally I know who they are,
and as I said, many are good friends.
Public flogging only gives the maddening crowd satisfaction for such a brief
moment. So let's push the point of attempting to invalidate the vote with
sound reasoning, or fixing this mess so it does not happen again.
Someone close told me years ago if you do something wrong, you become a part
of 9 day of gossip, diminishing each day. After 9 days, it usually dies a
quiet death. Time to do that.
I really liked the idea of no one getting into the PC who has not been a
member of a regional club or if not one available, a local kennel club. I also
like that the first year it is on associate membership or call it a
probationary term with the right to oust anyone at the end of that year who we
feels
has less than our goals in whole in mind. But we do need them clearly defined.
Molly
Trillia German Shepherds since 1974
Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC
If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket
and then give him only two of them>>>>Phil Pastoret
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