you should be teaching my fouth graders!....but watch out for Charlie!......nice post...Ed Gsdman2@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 12/28/2005 11:21:56 AM Central Standard Time, vande001@xxxxxxxxx writes: In my town (Memphis) you would not wear a confederate flag unless you were packin' and prepared to defend your right to wear what you wanted. To some people it is a very offensive symbol. ------------------------------------------------------ So, for some, wearing a confederate flag is a reason for someone to hurt another person? Being offended gives cause to assault someone? The ignorance continues! The confederate flag today is a display of heritage, not of hatred. In fact, the hatred that the people of the South did have, was directed at "Yankees." The Civil war started because the southern states declared themselves independent by secession. ("United we stand. Divided we fall.") Slavery was at the base, but economics was the actual reason for the break. The North was beginning to move into the industrial age. In the Midwest, wheat was the primary crop. Machines had been developed to harvest wheat but the South depended on slavery to harvest their primary crop ... cotton. (That is not a defense for their ignorance ... it is merely historical fact.) I doubt the average southerner even really understood the underlying differences. They probably saw the secession, then the battles, and were as patriotic as we all are so they joined the fight that their brothers were joining. One thing is for sure though ... they hated the "Yankees" well before baseball was even invented . A friend of mine told me about his grandmother's grave in Kentucky. The top of the headstone comes to a point and the words read, "No damn Yankee will sit on my grave!" So ... If anyone should be offended by a confederate flag, it should be us northerners. Many of our ancestors died fighting against the South. I'm not offended though. I've never looked at the Dukes of Hazard and thought racism... Have you? Nazi symbols, on the other hand, have been primarily used to display racism and hatred. That makes them different things all together. I think the inclusion of the Confederate flag as a symbol of hatred is completely off base and is actually being used as just another way to keep certain people in the lime light, who without that lime light would have no source of income. Its a little sad if you think about it ... So many people offended by so many "things" when hatred and racism still exist on every side of the coin, and "the coin" is not the Mason Dixon line. I'm sure there are many southerners who are quite offended as a symbol of their heritage is systematically removed from existence only because some people cannot distinguish the difference between pride and hatred ... the result of which will only be another reason for hatred. My ancestors all came from Germany. Germany has been the enemy twice over ... When you see me drinking a beer and chomping down on a bratwurst covered with sourcraut, will you hate me for that? Tom Langlitz ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================