In a message dated 3/22/2005 8:27:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx writes: The judges at these shows made sure they put up their friends who just happen to be the force in these clubs This happens all too often, it is discouraging for novices (the future of our breed) and seasoned veterans alike. It kills entries, and many times the dogs that are put up are not even close to the best in the class..so what is it doing for the breed?? When you speak out, no one listens, or the respective club officers get insulted "Who us?". We have seen well respected judges, GOOD judges get a poor entry, because some faction of a club didn't agree with the choice, and people stayed away from their own club's show to "support" the offended parties and f to protest. Protest what , good judges that have no agenda, and are not from the area???? What is that going to accomplish? It only hurts the club, and diminishes entries, and $$$ for the club. People beg for judges to just judge dogs....then when they get some that will, they won't support it. It's maddening, and an insult to all the judges trying to do the right thing. I don't get it, but what I do get is our specialty entries by and large are in trouble. When are people going to GET this? Kathy Gray Finest in American Show & German Importing WEBSITE UPDATED: MARCH 21, 2005 _Victory German Shepherds_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/index.htm) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================