The color-headed white Shelties are in the same situation. They were allowed previously, but later became a breed DQ. Some say because breeders were annoyed that color-headed whites, owned by a certain person, were winning at shows. Some say because of health issues related to the "lethal" white gene in merles. Same sad story - no one really knows why. BUT, the color-headed white Collie is perfectly acceptable and is shown in AKC. I believe they have the same genetic color makeup as Shelties. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Betty Jo Smith <pcharge1955@xxxxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Feb 5, 2013 1:13 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] whites ya or nay? I have always found this conversation interesting and though I am of no significant sway either way I thought I would put a penny of thought in.� � �Who recalls�a time when whites were part of the GSD conformation show ring and any other GSD venue?�It seems�just one change and they were DQ.� How sad when that happened because no one can give a perfectly good reason for it.� You might say diluting color and you would be wrong or that they were not as healthy and again you would be wrong.��Pleae share any viable reason for the change that has some truth.� �I would think that in our more scientific, truth restored�and modern world those reasons would not play such a huge part but it seems that we have the same prejudices again. Wouldn't it be nice if they had a their own variety (since some have such color issues) in the GSD conformation ring and not be shunned and perhaps we might then have a more cohesive and united breed. I don't see it happening but it is a pleasant thought�worth a penny or two. � Betty ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================