Are YOU KIDDING ME??? Throw away a few Grand Victors I guess.....and .more than a few Selects and a WHOLE LOTTA CHAMPIONS! <G> and about 45% or more of the dogs on some old timey pedigrees. Let's not even get into and occasional WHITE TOE! Sure glad we have a reasonable Standard. Obviously if they became "huge" issues that would be a different story...but most are so small and blend in so that they are seldom even noticed. They are like any other small 'flaw'....something we keep an eye on for further breeding...but as Linda Terry said....this is such a small unimportant issue it isn't even addressed in the Standard. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com From: Terry Cochran [mailto:tinky91147@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:15 AM To: jolisgsd@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Carolyn Martello; Showlist Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Black, Sables...bi-colors. & white patches I am sorry but the white patch is really offensive :0) Considering that the white dog is a disqualification. The white patch should be considered a serious fault. Terry On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Linda Terry <jolisgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: true. My solid black male has a white patch on his chest, but he is also the grandson of my CH bi-color male who had a white patch on his chest. I've also noticed that many of the black and tans that I've seen have white on their chests, but it is much harder to see because it blends in more with the tan On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:05 AM, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I believe "some" of ALL the colors in our Breed have an occasional white patch on their chest. Even the solid blacks. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com From: On Behalf Of Linda Terry Subject:Re: Black & Red and Black Sables...bi-colors. Of course, some of our bi-colors have a patch of our white on their chests. So technically I guess you could call them tri-colors. LOL. Fortunately, it doesn't take away from their beauty and most judges overlook it since the standard doesn't really address it. -- Linda Terry etsy shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/TheQuiltedPuppy?ref=shop_sugg & Jolis Adirondack Breeze, CGC & Jolis Adirondack Onyx Storm, RN, CGC & the forever in my heart Jolis Meadow Zephyr, CDX, RE, CGC & CH Snowyrivers Adirondack Joe v Jolis, HIC