no, no...dominant has no effect on whether or not it's transmitted...it just means if the dominant gene IS transmitted it will express itself over the recessive gene...in a heterozygous sable dog with a genotype of say one sable gene and one black gene, this dog will pass on these genes on a 50/50 basis........some may argue, but I'm right....Ed genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: It usually is the other way around because sable is the dominant gene. Amy Greenhut Justrock German Shepherds Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises, Tortoise Rescue -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Edwin Hill > thats very possibe, because each parent had a sable gene and a bk/t gene...as > far as the numbers...it's random...it could have just as easily been the > other > way around...Ed > > genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: A friend of mine bred a sable to a sable > and > got five black and tans and ONE sable puppy. > > > Amy Greenhut > Justrock German Shepherds > Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises, Tortoise Rescue > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Kim Schooley" > > What would one get from a sable to sable breeding, other than a true sable? > > > > Kim Schooley > > Kimber German Shepherds > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > On Behalf Of Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:56 AM > > To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: which color will dominate > > > > In a message dated 7/12/2008 12:50:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > > marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > So will a solid black........ > > Yep....someday I would like to breed a RED sable to a solid black. Never > > have found the right pair, but someday...... > > > > Jamie > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original > > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of > > the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > > ============================================================================ > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind > are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER > OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF > ALL > PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A > VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx, freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: which color will dominate Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:29:12 +0000 thats very possibe, because each parent had a sable gene and a bk/t gene...as far as the numbers...it's random...it could have just as easily been the other way around...Ed genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: A friend of mine bred a sable to a sable and got five black and tans and ONE sable puppy. Amy Greenhut Justrock German Shepherds Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises, Tortoise Rescue -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Kim Schooley" > What would one get from a sable to sable breeding, other than a true sable? > > Kim Schooley > Kimber German Shepherds > > -----Original Message----- > From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:56 AM > To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: which color will dominate > > In a message dated 7/12/2008 12:50:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > So will a solid black........ > Yep....someday I would like to breed a RED sable to a solid black. Never > have found the right pair, but someday...... > > Jamie > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. 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