In a message dated 9/4/2006 4:45:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, zgrace_grace@xxxxxxxxx writes: I woud like to know what is it your supposed to do when your bitch takes this long and walking doesn't help and you have no oxytocin????? do you do relaxation message??? Give the bitch sugar water??? What? How scary. Grace Eaton Vontan@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2006 4:27:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sheilaofmiami@xxxxxxxxx writes: A friend's bitch is in labor, had her 1st puppy at about 8:30 am and then another 2 hrs later and a 3rd pup 2 hrs after that. Its now over 3 hrs since she's had a puppy and the bitch is resting comfortably not in distress. She is Here's a good site to bookmark: _http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:WbvneYBvIhMJ:www.labbies.com/reproduction 3.htm+injecting+calcium+during+whelping&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8_ (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:WbvneYBvIhMJ:www.labbies.com/reproduction3.h tm+injecting+calcium+during+whelping&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8) ***************************************************************************** I would never whelp a bitch without having pit on hand. I may not always need it (except 1/2 a cc at the end to clean out any bits of placenta etc.), but NEVER without it. Instead of me going through all the warnings of how and when to use pit, there's good info on the site. AND I know calcium is popular, and a lot of folks like it, but take heed, it CAN cause heart arrhythmia and sudden death. Just because it hasn't happened to "you" doesn't mean it can't. Nothing is 100% foolproof. I think I pray harder in the whelping box than anywhere else! Good luck to your friend:) Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================