You could be right, but I've never heard a dog described as a moist dog. The problem with absolutes (such as judges saying they absolutely won't put up a dog with... whatever... is that as they grow more experienced as judges, people realize that there are no absolutes in judging...because the dogs are different every day, the conditions are different every day, and mostly, because we judges are, after all, only human. It is possible for a judge to fall in love with a dog somewhere and then, when that dog is shown under that judge, there is another dog there that the judge loves better...or the first dog may be having an off day, or have gained or lost weight, or dropped coat, OR, perhaps on the first time the judge saw the dog it was out of coat and looked great, but when shown to that judge, the full coat is there...and it is too much...destroying the outline of the dog and just making the dog not look as good. Most judges don't judge on one criteria alone (at least they shouldn't) and while it is possible to figure out what one thing a particular judge really likes, all the above applies...and a judge who has gone 20 years without ever putting up a dog, for example, whose ribs can be counted from outside the ring can, on any given day, fall all over him or herself over a dog that's desperately in need of a few good meals...it can possess beautiful type, be in hard condition, be in coat, and move like a textbook example...and the judge will overlook the skinniness of it....or whatever. So, if you were trying to say that something in between a wet dog and a dry dog is probably ideal, you are probably right. But...again..every day is different. Lots of help, huh? Peggy > > It seems to methat the ideal dog is a moist dog. > > Cindy :o) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================