Doris, I would like to add one more thing. My experience has been that dryer dogs tend to stay in condition easier. Bull was a drier dog albeit he didn't look like he was when he was older as he got more curvaceous and had more coat at around 4 years of age. However, he took every little conditioning to keep him muscular and fit.Bull was also a bit on the rangy side when he was young with a bit more leg under him. I find dryer dogs to be this way more often younger. Wetter dogs tend to be more polished looking at a younger age, deeper in body and very eye appealing, in my opinion. Godiva was a wetter type dog. she could get out of condition a bit faster, gained weight easier. You had to keep on her more to keep her in condition. she matured quickly and looked competitive in Am Bred when she was in the early 12-18 class. This is just an observation I have had with my own dogs and with the lines we have. Currently I have littermates that I am showing. the dog..being a bit more like Bull is a dryer dog at this age and closer coated. However he is always fit, good muscle definition, hard back, very athletic. The sister, is a bit wetter, gains weight easier, carries a bit more coat. she too is athletic, but requires more conditioning to stay fit and muscular.Althought the male is curvaceous set up, I anticipate like Bull he will have smoother lines with age. The sister is already curvaceous with smooth lines. Could be the difference in maturity between bitches and dogs. However have had dryer bitches, such as Brick House, and as a youngster she was more like Bull, and also got more curvaceous with age along with more coat with age. Often dryer youngster get penalized for not looking as "mature" as their wetter competitors. At one point when we were showing Bull, I thought if I heard one more person say he "looked immature" when we were showing him in the 12-18 class, I thought I would pull my hair out!! LOL! Young animals are supposed to look immature, just like young children don't look like adults!!. Just a few years ago..the 12-18 class winners used to compete for Best Puppy wins!! If you have a dryer puppy or young dog/bitch..hang in there, they are there best at 3-4. Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Doris E <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: showlist <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 10/12/2007 5:19:21 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] wet and dry dogs > > To me, a dry dog does not carry a lot of coat, and looks as though his > angles are a bit sharp. Often there is a lack of undercoat. A wet dog is > a plush coated dog, and he can be either in or out of condition, > depending on his owner. His angulation does not show up as sharp, as it > does in the dry animal. My preference is toward the wet dog, maybe a > damp dog?? Doris > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================