and we wonder why only the die-hards are left in this "sport"? And Peggy - that dog who was aggressive, was he used for breeding because of his winning record? Real breed improvement. Ruth ________________________________ From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: wynsum@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 10:15:19 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: westminster/drugs/reactions You'd be surprised at what goes on...some of it in view of lots of people...and nobody ever reports any of it. I've known (but not seen it for myself) handlers to get dogs onto a "sugar high" by loading them with sugar before they show...this morning I heard about a dog shown at the Garden this year who was given fluids by subq shots just before going to his breed judging...he was looking "skinny," so the handler shot him up a few times to plump him up. I have to admit, that's the first time I ever heard of that, but if THAT handler knows about it, it must not be uncommon. One top winning dog in the past few years was drugged most of the time because he was so aggressive, not only to dogs but to his handler and other humans... "everyone" knew the dog was doped out of his mind, and it never stopped him. I had him once, and walked him out of the breed because he didn't know where he was....AKC field reps landed on me hard for "dumping" him...but there's no way...not when he didn't know where he was, or recognize his name......when I got home, I had a phone call from a handler friend whose first words were "I guess he had too many pills, huh?" I didn't have to ask him what he was talking about. Many years ago a top handler. now a judge. gave a lame dog a shot right at the in gate of the breed ring at Westminster.........in full view of the whole world, so to speak. Nobody ever said a word. Drugging is common...not good, but common. They drug them to get 'em up, and they drug them to make them controllable..........and some owners are as bad as some handlers. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc Zoe" <wynsum@xxxxxxx> > You might very well be correct. I believe that it is best to give the dog > medications that they > required in the van and not in front of anyone. Nobody should give a dog > dope, and people > should not medicate in public. > > While I like to think that people do not dope, I am sure that it happens. > SHAME ON THEM. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================