so we pack our fur lined every thing and throw in the Kahlua for the coffee. Sounds like a good time to me. If it turns out warmer we can always get ice cubes for the Kahlua. For those that are traveling by ground crawlers (cars, truck SUV, motor homes. Bring you chains and know how to use them before you need them. If you do this we will have 70 degree weather. We are going into a dangerous area, Colorado doesn't have any active volcanoes to use for sacrifice. We are on our own with the weather gods!!! Terry "L. Hartten" <hartten@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Folks, A disclaimer up front: I have 3 degrees in meteorology, but I'm in research for a reason -- I'm not a good forecaster! I know where to get the data and I know something about how to interpret it, but this isn't a forecast and it's not an official statement from my employers. Also, "what to pack" is a very individual thing, so you're all on your own! History first, from NOAA's Central Region Headquarters web site (www.crh.noaa.gov) and links to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (ncdc.noaa.gov): Daily Normal Max & Min Temperature, Heating Degree Days, Cooling Degree Days, and Precip for Loveland, Colorado (LOVELAND 2N, #055236, Lat=40°24', Lon=105°07'W, Elev=5040ft, 1971-2000 averages) October DATE MAX MIN AVG HDD CDD PRCP 10 68 38 53 12 0 0.03 11 67 37 52 13 0 0.03 12 67 37 52 13 0 0.03 13 67 37 52 13 0 0.03 14 66 36 51 14 0 0.03 15 66 36 51 14 0 0.03 16 65 35 50 15 0 0.03 17 65 35 50 15 0 0.03 18 64 35 49 16 0 0.03 19 64 34 49 16 0 0.03 20 63 34 49 16 0 0.03 21 63 33 48 17 0 0.03 22 62 33 48 17 0 0.03 Probabilities of first Fall frost & freeze for Ft. Collins, based on 1971-2000 observations *Probability Level* *Temp* *10% * *50% * *90% * 36°F Sep 15 Sep 24 Oct 4 32°F Sep 18 Oct 2 Oct 17 28°F Sep 24 Oct 10 Oct 26 Loveland's average maximum temperatures in mid-Oct are in the mid-60's, average lows in the mid-30's. There's a 50% chance of having a low temperature of 28°F in Ft. Collins by Oct 10, a 90% chance by Oct 26. This year, the CSU Foothills Campus station (at 5120ft) got down to 36.2°F on 9/11, 34 & 35°F on 9/25 & 26, and 31.6°F on 10/1. The Front Range has about 15% less atmosphere above it than locations at sea level, and that atmosphere is usually pretty dry (condensation rarely forms on a container pulled out of a refrigerator). When the sun is out, it feels quite warm especially if you're in dark clothes (or fur!). When the sun is up, even if the clouds are out, it's easy to get a sunburn because there's less atmosphere filtering the rays. When the sun goes down, it gets cold fast. Now the outlook, also from www.crh.noaa.gov and its links to products at NOAA's Climate Prediction Center: The 8-14 day outlook, valid Oct 10-16, is for a 50% chance of temperatures being above normal in the northeastern quarter of Colorado, and a 40-50% chance of below normal precipitation. Those who'd like to see the maps themselves can go to http://www.crh.noaa.gov/climate/main.php?type=outlook&page=temp_pcpn.php and click on the thumbnails. Cheers, Leslie -- Leslie M. Hartten web: http://spot.colorado.edu/~hartten Indi (TerraNorte's Midnight Indigo, German Shepherd Dog) & Brittany (Upland Sweet Baker, English Setter) -- Disclaimer: The contents of this message are mine personally and do not necessarily reflect any position of the Government of the United States of America, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or the University of Colorado. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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