Tony..I would refrain from placing limitations on numbers of litters per year.How would we enforce it?.Would we count co-bred litters? Only litters whelped on your property? what if you have several bitches that have very small litters..or are you going to go by both the number of litters and puppies within the litter? The biggest reason I never signed the Breeders Code was because it wanted to dictate the number of times you should breed a bitch unless she went to the vet..that you had to give a repeat breedings..etc. We don't have that many litters per year..so I am not saying this because it would in someway affect us On the other hand, over the years there have been many prominent breeders who have had quite a few litters per year.It may not be what I would do, but I do know that some( not all) did have appropriate help to properly care for the litters.. Knowledgeable conscientious breeders should have the right to make judicious breeding choices, whether it be about numbers of litters, x-rays, repeat breedings, numbers of times bitches should be bred, what age they should be bred. All information should be factored in on a case by case basis as for every "rule" there is an exception.. There has to be a better way to define what constitutes a indiscriminate breeder from a conscientious one than trying to define it by "numbers" Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: <acorreia1043@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (showgsd-l)> > Date: 2/15/2007 1:34:28 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: we need a name > > How about a "Discriminating" Breeder. To be PC, a line under it could say: > (A limited Numer of Litters/Year) or something that connotates that. > Tony C > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: sheila lieberman <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx> > > > "Master" would be for someone who has attained some level of success to be > > defined. > > > > We need a term that could include fools like me. I won't be breeding again, > > but I know about the dogs and the bloodlines. Conscientious breeder. > > Stormy435@xxxxxxx wrote: > > I suggested Specialist (I liked that one!) or Master. 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