[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was....Check out the numbers

  • From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
  • To: RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx, HelenFranklin520@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:54:27 EDT

Helen,
 
I remember the very tail end of the large number days.  In a huge  class 
you had one or two contenders and the rest wouldn't make it out of  today's 
pet pile.  
 
Now, the puzzle for me is how in the "old days" you had so many people  
willing to run around with a dog that didn't have a chance in hell of  
finishing.  The same holds true for the numbers you reference from the  SV.  A 
few 
are good ones, many aren't.  
 
Today, the only people we see dragging dogs around without a shot are  
newbies.  Then, bless their hearts, they either smarten up or go  broke.  If 
they smarten up, they show up the following season with a better  specimen.
 
Most of "us" don't start a dog who couldn't finish, or, if we're on the  
fence, we might give them a handful of shows to see what we think.
 
If I don't have something competitive in a particular situation, I can have 
 a great time at a show without showing anything. In fact, I have a MUCH  
better time than if I brought something and lost.
 
We'll probably see a lot of posts on the economy, the cost of handlers,  
limited family time etc., etc., but if those were the "only" reasons, the SV's 
 numbers wouldn't still be as high as they are, so, personally, I discount 
those  reasons.  They've made it fun for the losers.  How?  
 
So....they've managed to do is make it fun for the folks without a  shot.  
I "get it" when it comes to performance sports.  It's fun to  get a dog to 
be the best they can and qualify.  It's fun to work hard and  do a better job 
than you did last week.  I get it.
 
For me that doesn't extend to the breed ring. You can work as  hard as you 
want, but you won't change structure, and dragging a dog around that  
doesn't have a shot...well, it's just not that appealing.  How our  clubs made 
it 
appealing in the past and how the SV does it today...I just don't  know.
 
Here's an analogy:  My nephew, who is five, is on a ski team.  At  the end 
of the season they had some kind of a race event.  He called my  parents, 
ecstatic, that he'd won a medal.  The results/times were  on line, so Dad 
printed them out.  Well, heck, everyone who managed to  stay upright won a 
medal!  
 
That's OK when you're five. I get it.  I don't get it at fifteen,  twenty 
five etc., any more than I "get" taking  a dog to the breed ring  that 
doesn't have a prayer.
 
JMO
 
 
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In a message dated 4/28/2009 10:52:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx writes:

In a  message dated 4/28/2009 9:21:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,   
helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx writes:
REPLY:  In the 60's and 70's, we  had to get a second judge when the entry 
went  over
100.? The open  class alone had over 20.? You don't see that there's a  
problem??  There
is a VERY BIG problem.? Shows in the U.S. that are SV shows   draw over 
400.? 
The boy scouts are going to another venue, perhaps  because  they can 
participate
in the show.? A show of 30, total  entry, is absurd.?  The ship is sinking 
and the
boy scouts aren't  around to save us.? DO THE  MATH!? Records live, 
opinions  
die.
Helen



I remember with clarity the 60's and  70's.  Those were the Golden  Years.  
Now, for whatever  reason, those days are gone, probably  forever.  Why 
does 
there  have to be a problem?  My life, as well as  most, have many more  
problems today than the good ole 60's and 70's.  

Personally I  could care less how many participants are in the S.V.  shows. 
  
They have nothing I am interested in.  That does not make me   wrong on 
them 
right.  It is just the way it is!  Anyone  can  participate in our shows.  
Most choose not to.   

As for the ship sinking, maybe it is, but its my ship.   

Since you quoted Ralph and Mary Roberts, for whatever reason, I will  quote 
 
(paraphrase) Fran & Joan Ford.
"Shepherds don't move on  their ears."  Makes no sense, but neither did  
your  quote.

Here is my quote "Don't build up the S.V. by degrading the GSDC  of  
America."  Not a nice, or positive way to cure the  Problem.

Randy C.


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