My thoughts are mirror imaged with you Kathy on all points. Thanks for posting the note to Melanie, nice gal. Last year Ed Hill did a survey (and right now don't recall the topic, might have been the DQ issue). Instead of the board spending all this time discussing how they may or might, perhaps a survey to the membership to get their opinion before the long process of changing the standard occurs. Over on the telephone conference I heard one board member obviously close the phone telling another board member "these people (members) are going to have to get used to not always having their own way. So we piss some of them off at times.......oh well. All our decisions won't be popular but its the way it is" A little hard to swallow for the "little people". Molly Member GSDCC, GSDCA, GSDC of Beaumont, life member CKC. Trillia German Shepherds since 1972. In a message dated 2/7/2013 7:32:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: Again, re. whites, my position has always been "all in or all out" and let the membership decide when it comes to whites. Before voting I would hope we had a clear understanding of the reaction the SV would have if we removed the DQ for whites and if, by doing so, the GSDCA would be giving up our place on the world stage. IF that would be the case, my position would change to "all out". ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================