I urge companion puppy buyers to leave their boys intact until 2 - 2 1/2 years old. It's even in my puppy packet. I hate what a male neutered at 6 months end up looking like, tall w/o the bone they should have had. Do they listen???? Some don't. I don't know who is worse when it comes to "testicles". In my experience a handful of women can't WAIT to have the dog neutered, don't like how "they" look, (say what???????), don't want marking (we don't have a breed that marks with just a MINIMUM of training)...boy could someone have fun delving into THOSE emotions....no????? Then there are the doggy daddies who feel like they are the ones being castrated....geeze. Then you have the supposed articulate parents who don't know how to explain the occasion foolishness a puppy can go through at puberty to wide eyed children. I remember one doggy daddy calling me when his 4 month old puppy took a pillow from the couch to have his way with it and whispered into the phone "why is he doing THAT?". I whispered back "because it feels good". (And seriously...a man had to ask that question? REALLY?????) "Take the pillow away and don't make a fuss". And this guy is a parent to human children???? Scary. But we can talk until we are blue in the face; once a companion puppy family takes their dog, it's all out of our hands. Charge a good price, insist on a good fence, give vet references to better vets and do a lot of praying. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 12/27/2010 8:58:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx writes: If I got a dog of a breed that was supposed to have distinct secondary sex characteristics (GSD's)even for a pet I would not neuter early. I'd want my dog to look like a mature specimen before I neutered. I know several people who have regretted neutering early because their males never developed the secondary sex characteristics their standards called for. Diane BISS Ch. Echo-Cham's River Phoenix OFA H&E AKA "River" GCh. Ch. Da-Jo's Crestview Ironman OFA H&E AKA "Tony Stark" Candia's Hard Rock Candy v Tejas AKA "Rocky" Echo-Cham's Satin Doll v Tejas AKA "Dolly" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================