In a message dated 10/5/2005 10:20:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Tigra12@xxxxxxx writes: It would be nice if somebody extended a hand to the working people to say "Welcome aboard" or vice versa, but the comaraderie just isn't there, and it should be. Knock the chip off your shoulder Jackie. For every performance title (past the first level titles, for which the GSDCA sends a certificate), I've received a pin. The third level titles (like a UD) receive a gold tone pin, just like the CH pins. My dogs' names are published in the Review for both the performance titles and the CHs (just like every other members' dogs). Honor parades hosted by regional clubs and the Parade Of Greats at the national recognize performance winners too (just look at an entry if you don't believe me). Regional clubs recognize ALL titles at their award meetings, not just conformation awards. I think we (parent and regional club members) do a pretty good job at casting a wide net. AND if you think this topic is only a GSD topic, spend some time w/ the sporting and working dog people. There is always a tug of war between how a dog looks winning in the breed ring v. how they are "supposed" to look and function while working. There's a reason for the tug of war, though. I CAN take a dog that is "not exactly" within the breed standard and win all sorts of performance awards. I CAN'T take the same dog to the breed ring, though, and put a CH in front of its name. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================